I think the point they are trying to make is… Huang may have seen a time when gamers were a part of their base… the new CEO will likely start from the position of datacenters only.

Lets put it this way, we’re downgrading from Mike Pence to JD Vance… yes the bar was on the floor… but they will find a way to go so much lower.

It’s stupid on so many levels… yeah first and foremost basically everything about space is terrible for data centers.

What are the 3 things a data center needs.

Power, cooling, good internet connection. Obviously power is complicated as heck, yeah solar is a bit more direct, but also hits total blackouts when it winds up in the shadow of things… and shielding etc… from all the radiation is a pain and a half, solar pannels will need to be drastically bigger and heavier than their earth counterparts, which is expensive as hell to send up there.

but the harder part… cooling. People think of space as cold, but that’s innacurate… there’s no air to be cold… things stay at the temperature they are… if you have something constantly pumping out heat… it’s insanely difficult to get the heat to radiate out.

probably, but don’t you know, everything in the cloud is the FuTuRe!! owning things yourself is the way of the past, it’s like physical disks you can resell or something.

Sad thing with the exception of price, it’s probably not that far off that most average people’s usages will be similar. but yeah the idea of paying by the hour or cpu grade etc… for a computer is going to suck… and be far more expensive for gamers, hobbyists etc…

mostly quoting their own people who are going out on the news and saying “yeah we really believe that there’s maybe a 10% chance we destroy the world with this”.

No, they just enabled Chinese LLMs to be the forefront of reverse engineering. Because people will do what they want to do.

Their goal is simple… everything they are doing right now is striving to make the US ban individual hardware.

Chinese models are open, anyone can get them… stopping the flow of data on private computers is impossible. Hardware however is getting more expensive, hardware manufacturers are already deciding to move out of the consumer market on their own. The US government is already establishing laws to prevent shipping foreign hardware into the country.

Altman’s giving the game away when he does this “it’s so sad that all this ram is sitting around in people’s home computers unappreciated when it could do so much more in a data center”.

The idea is to sell the message "AI is out of the bag, and it’s world ending technology. Basically they are going to imply that the guardrails in their data centers are the only thing that’s preventing all AIs from destroying the software industry, and teaching teenagers to build bombs and hacking the CIA, and the only possible response would be to stop all direct to consumer hardware sales with anything more than the bare minimum needed to stream a PC out of a data center.

False accusation is one of the more difficult things to write laws for, because it’s very difficult to prove. IE the problem is defining honest reasonable suspicions from blatent attacks… and differentiating cannot prove it from proven innocent. Perhaps in shoplifting I don’t care, but in other aspects of life, say rape or violence that I actually do care about. We don’t want someone to not report serious crimes because if they can’t prove beyond reasonable doubt the person is guilty, they open themselves up to the law swinging the other way. So it can’t directly be provably guilty that makes the line, which then goes to intent. Is the accuser making a reasonable claim that merits opening an investigation, or maliciously getting it wrong on purpose, which is almost impossible to prove one way or the other beyond them being dumb enough to brag about it on social media.

A 3rd choice would be even more niche, and all it would do is talk about how they left both reddit and lemmy.

To me it’s going to wreck the economy one way or the other.

either it matches it’s hype and it recoups it’s trillions of dollars invested via taking half or more of the countries jobs for only half our sallaries. Or it’s going to implode and all of us are going to end up desperate for work when the financial crash wrecks everything 10x harsher than we’ve ever imagined.

To me the AI fear wouldn’t be as bad, if we were further dipping our toes in. UBI or an economic system where we didn’t have to work to live. Of course in america we’re seeing the opposite as they are adding work requirements to food stamps, medicaid etc…

Running a comparison, assuming it’s in use 8 hours a day 5 days a week, looks like a CPC runs around 640-760 a year (just googling quickly checking the numbers). course that’s just basic hourly office computer, meant to be comparable to what normally would be normal office computer. Didn’t bother to look and see what say an 8,000 high end graphics card laptop or something would compare… of course if your company was doing 8,000 laptops “a couple years ago”, those are probably at least 15,000 laptops today.

I don’t think it’s going to be an overnight thing, It will start voluntarily, as the price equation shifts. the complications wasn’t worth the savings when office PCs were 1500 a pop, but what about when they are 3000 a pop and projected to hit 5000 next year. After more of them make the switch… then say an announcement can happen that microsoft is lessening it’s support for on prem servers and workstations, patches will be less frequent. and now it’s a risk assessment as well.

If they aren’t rich enough, then they are in the same boat as us. This ain’t exactly new… AWS workspaces, Azure Cloud PCs, Google docs, office 365, one drive. The tech has been creeping it’s way into businesses for the last 10 years. Obviously they are getting hammered right now by the raise in prices of new PCs. As the prices go up, they will have to make decisions.

I’ve called this so many times over… It’s not just going to be xbox… it’s going to be PCs in general, With AI data centers raising up the price on all hardware, They are already making moves in the government on banning routers. The plan is going to be for personal computers and hardware to leave the world. Either price them out of consumer reach or flat out outlaw them. We get thin clients like stadia, Luna etc… Actually having a personal computer capable of running software itself will be considered a national security threat. Why wouldn’t you keep your stuff in the cloud where the government can audit it, companies can make sure you aren’t pirating or running unapproved illegal LLMs that could make bombs etc…

You mean just in time for the US to declare “Chinese ram” a national security risk and ban it’s import right?

sorry I said that backwards, meant by the time and not by the power you get. But yes IMO that’s what would be silly is I guess if there are exceptions like that where taking longer costs more, as obviously that’s largely a variable they control that doesn’t have to do with your usage, I could see with using that as a workaround with stupid laws though.

I think their point is that for a business a captive audience is a good thing. Kind of like how some grocery stores have noticed that when checkout takes longer, people are more likely to buy the drinks and snacks they put for sale near the checkout line. Likewise a charging station could have an overpriced restraunt selling low quality burgers for twice the price of the restraunts 2 minutes away by car, and customers will eat there because, they don’t want to sit around for 30 minutes, and then drive down the road and stop for another 10.

Unless I’m missing something and fast chargers charge by the watt instead of the hour, in which case that’s pretty big BS.

constitutions are meaningful because institutions can enforce them.

Throughout trumps term… that’s sounding less and less to be the case.

Maybe that’s the idea, they aren’t trying to raise the bar out of what we expect from this pinky swear. Maybe they want us to lower our expectations of a constitution to be “guidelines that we sometimes follow, when they don’t get too much in the way of what we want to do”.

We’ve also decided to add a “pinky promise” layer to this agreement.

You know what, considering that the world see’s AI on the same level of nukes. Maybe the iran war can be solved this way. Just give Iran a “morally binding” request to not build nukes. Declare that the new victory and end the iran war.

yawn… let us know when the actual human scientists actually verify it, and figure out a use for it. In a world where we already have an excess of bored media producers releasing. “Scientists think this might lead to a cure for cancer”. Highlighting some piece of research at stage .0001 of determining if there’s even a direction to work with, now we’ve got reporting coming giving us something at the stage before it gets to the scientists that can start speculating on whether it might lead to something.

I’m about 40, and yeah I can say that I used old google. But I would actually defer to someone 10-20 years older than myself, because I was pretty young during most of that time, and I have to say when I rewatch a lot of things from that era, I realize that 10-18 year old me, has some pretty rose colored glasses.

Because you really feel like spiderman… said one review from like one of the first to do the web travel mechanics in a pretty fun way… and when every spider man game basically copy pasted the same mechanics into a barely changed method, rather than criticizing it for being a copy paste of their last game with updated graphics, reviewers decided they could instead copy paste their reviews with slightly updated phrasing.