Threatening to sue your customers is such a brilliant business move.
It’s also the business model of Oracle I think and they are wildly successful.
Who are Oracle’s customers?
MBAs
I think it had something to do with Broadcom wanting to go for a few big customers and don’t want to deal with the small fry anymore.
Surely no competitors will grow in the small and medium business market to eventually be a competitor…
Broadcom knows they bought a dying platform. Their strategy is to isolate the customers incapable of ever migrating and charge them as close to near bankruptcy as possible. They’ll get their initial return on investment in under 5 years and then eventually just let VMware die because new businesses that are still nimble all moved to other platforms anyway. They’ll hit Lotto tickets with a few whales and keep 5-10 devs on to patch stuff for those whales and print 100-1000x return on costs in perpetuity.
That is … bleak.
I suspect you are correct.
RemindMe in 5 years
#I know that doesn’t work here
Especially those who are perfectly in the right legally and morally.
Remember:
There’s no such thing as a perpetual license, there’s only “until we change our mind” licenses
This is another good reminder to not use VMware nor VirtualBox for any reason.
It’s free and works for me, why should I stop using Virtualbox?
and what to use instead? run qemu commands and all the preparation by hand?
there’s proxmox, but that’s not a desktop solution.
Virt-manager is a GUI for libvirt, which can use several hypervisors, including KVM/QEMU, and it works great.
There’s several other clients for libvirt, including GNOME Boxes, Cockpit (web based), and virsh (CLI).
Boxes is very well-organized and easy to use.
Yeah but GTK
Yeah, I don’t prefer that. But with some things I feel like it’s barely a downside, and I’d put Boxes into that category. It’s useful and well-designed enough in terms of functionality that I’m willing to overlook the Gnominess.
I’m out of the loop. Why not virtualbox?
One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.
Dunno, Larry well understands what he does unlike most tech CEOs and owners today. Oracle was allied to Sun at some point. Larry has that demonic appearance, but he’s less of a threat than literally anybody else of them. Especially since Larry already has enormous power which he abuses less than expected.
You’re talking the CEO of a company who sued Google on the premise that header files, a descriptor file for what commands can be used and what parameters they took, should be copyrighted? The CEO who poisoned the OpenOffice community so thoroughly that the fork, LibreOffice, was founded by the leaders of OpenOffice and became the de facto standard instead of the original, and it happened overnight? That guy?
You’re talking the CEO of a company who sued Google on the premise that header files, a descriptor file for what commands can be used and what parameters they took, should be copyrighted?
Oh. That part I didn’t know.
The CEO who poisoned the OpenOffice community so thoroughly that the fork, LibreOffice, was founded by the leaders of OpenOffice and became the de facto standard instead of the original, and it happened overnight? That guy?
Yeah, that was just the habit probably.
Bruh they’re a copywrite law firm (read as patent troll) with a database and a tech company attached. Pretty much all they do is fuck other people over
with a database and a tech company attached
There are three real DBMS options for enterprise - Oracle, PGSQL, MSSQL, and Oracle is the most powerful and least problematic of them.
I’m not sure why you would buy an open-source company/product, particularly a GPLv3 one, if you didn’t understand or agree with the premise. It’s probably the stupidest decision he made. I’m not saying I agree with his other decisions, but most of them made some kind of business sense. With this one, he would have saved a lot of time and effort and received the same value if he’d just spun OO.o off ASAP. The linked timeline kind of says it all.
I don’t get your confusion.
Sun buys StarOffice, Sun opensources it into OpenOffice and supports its development, Sun goes under and gets bought by Oracle with all its stuff.
Then yeah, Oracle killed most of what Sun was doing altruistically (or as part of their desktop\workstation strategy that didn’t transpire, who knows). Including OOO.
Citation needed on literally all points. Fuck Oracle, fuck Sun, and fuck Larry Ellison
Fuck Oracle,
Suppose so
fuck Sun,
Either you are so ignorant you don’t know what Sun was, or you are out of your fucking mind.
and fuck Larry Ellison
That’s up to everyone, I personally don’t find him that attractive
Where would we be without predatory rent-seeking?
Someone’s going to make a fortune migrating firms off VMWare onto open-source VMs.
Man could you imagine what proxmox would be if that project got just a tenth of the money VMware got?
Classic prisoners dilemma. Nobody wants to invest in proxmox because not enough people invest in proxmox.
Honestly I think if Proxmox got VMWare money then they’d become stuffed to the gills with business sharks and probably go the same route eventually.
That is not a Proxmox problem, that is a capitalism problem.
*Humanity problem.
There are some solutions invented, but they require work and revolutionary wars. And the functioning system, I think, will be as close to ancap as to Trotskyism. Won’t be clearly “socialist”.
No, this is not a humanity problem. This is a capitalism problem. Companies are not beholding to their customers, they are beholden to stock owners. It is no longer in their best interest to make customers happy, it’s in their best interest to provide ROI for their investors. Every software product hits a point of diminishing returns. There are no new amazing features to woo new customers, it is a mature product that only has incremental features. When this happens, you either flip to a subscription model and parasitize your user base, or sell to another vendor, management group, or some other entity who does it after you’ve been paid out. If we had better controls on mergers and buyouts there would be active competition to foster diversity and keep prices down, but when companies buy all their competition and all of the small companies who make products and enhancements for their base, it’s a lose lose situation for the end users. This is my jaded two cents after a quarter century of being in the IT/AEC field in the direct line of this enshittification process from multiple companies across the spectrum.
Companies are not beholding to their customers, they are beholden to stock owners.
I don’t think you realize how much of an improvement this is over other really existent options.
One can be a serf, or a slave, or a city dweller in a privilege-based society, or a peasant in some despotic kingdom. The list of options is long, none are good.
That’s a very eurocentric view. Most of the world outside of Europe and imperial Asia was communist or socialist tribes until Europe went and colonized everything. And they were doing pretty damn good at colonizing.
Remember the reason colonists conquered lands so easily was largely because they out-armed them. The tribes had no need for such advanced weapons until colonists arrived with them.
Most of the world outside of Europe and imperial Asia was communist or socialist tribes
Name one for this wild statement.
And they were doing pretty damn good at colonizing
That’s another aspect - building something and not getting overrun by those more considerate.
That seems unlikely to persuade those people to continue using VMware, but good luck with that business strat Broadcom.
The strategy, from day-1, was to dump low-tier customers and squeeze the big dogs. They knew this wasn’t a viable long-term plan. Broadcom knew they had captive customers in the large enterprise space who would take years to migrate. They want to rape all they can, cash out and kill the product someday. But hey! As long as they can squeeze, they will do so.
I mean, fuck me, Oracle is still in business and that’s the model Broadcom is going for.
Yeah. Let’s not get started on fucking Oracle. We’ll be here all day. Or year, possibly.
The not owning anything is ridiculous. We need clear regulation that makes it so companies cant do bullcrap like this. If I buy something, I own it, period.
